God, was I wrong to HIT the child?
Before judging me, please read my question in full and then answer accordingly. I was on a flight home to Chicago coming from Omaha, so mind you this is only 1 hour in the air. A father is in front of me with his bratty 3 year-old boy who keeps screaming playfully. You know the type- the kid that's in a good mood but thinks its funny to make monkey screechy noises. Well this was happening over and over. The father did nothing but subtely tell the kid to stop doing it. But the kid kept going on. It's a full flight, no other seats. I'm getting upset. Finally after the kid just kept going and kept screaming, I had had enough. I stood up and shoved the kid a little so his face hit the window of the plane, and said "Will you shut the hell up!" I didn't realize my shoving had caused him to hurt his head, but none the less he began crying. Now the father is in my face yelling at me, and a flight attendant comes over and escorts me to the front of the plane, where I had to sit in a private seat for the remainder of the flight. The good news- I finally got some rest. The bad news- I now face a court date. I understand shoving a kid is wrong, but come on! Read my points, parents, and tell me why you don't know how to raise children- 1) Why did the father let his brat keep making loud noises? The kid must have been mentally off, because NO one makes noises that much. You're on a plane. Learn some respect. The father should have known better. 2) Why do flights allow children on board? Seriously. They should make a separate airline that's dedicated to kids and parents ONLY. That way us single people can go on flight and get rest. We pay tons of money to fly and check bags- we deserve peace. Or better yet, why can't the airline just put the kids where the luggage goes? No joke. Kids under 5 are about the size of dogs. They can easily be put in a cage and thrown in the luggage area, and fed food and water. They can scream all they want there. 3) Why do parents spoil their kids now a days? You're on a ******* plane! Either smack the kid in the mouth to shut him up or don't fly. Drive your ******* car and stop disturbing other paying passengers. I am NOT making this up, so stop telling me that - either help me or don't respond. Again, stop with the 1-sentence retorts. I need detailed answers! Alicia- I am not a troll, but can tell you're one. How are you basing my story on another story about flights? Idiot.
Religion & Spirituality - 28 Answers
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I don't think God has an account on YA!
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LOL.
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please dont ever have kids
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Ok, first thing first: get a lawyer!! maybe even apologize to the father, hopefully he will forgive you. because i can tell you, the jury is not going to sympathize with ur situation. you don't have a strong case. thirdly, in the future, just talk to the dad, you know? tell him to shut his kid up. if he doesn't listen, then you can call the flight attendant. but either way, sry, u have no right to hit somebody else's kid. one of my family members is a lawyer. so i can tell you right now you are in quite serious trouble. you need to appear you have learned your lesson, and will not do so again. don't say what you just wrote on yahoo answers to the judge!
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You were definitely out of line. If you wanted to whack someone, should have been the father verbally or call the flight attendant.
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this is crazy I'm not God.. I can't judge you however you have a serious anger problem.. you can't expect a three year old not to make noise.. it sounds like you have anger stemming from more than that though, therapy would benefit you.. just bc a child being normal annoys you, it's not an excuse to put your hands on him.. a three year old.. ridiculous. have some empathy..
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According to the Bible, god sent bears to tear apart children. But yes you were wrong to assault a child - you would have been equally wrong to assault an adult. Assault is assault. And you obviously don't have kids. Be glad the kid was just happily making noises as opposed to pitching a tantrum, screaming at the top of his lungs, and kicking your seat. Parents and kids pay to fly too. And yes, parents are responsible for their child's behavior that does not mean a child will be perfect and quiet for the duration of a flight. Deal with it. Put on headphones or something or pay extra to fly in first class. I was once on a train ride with children who were literally screaming, climbing over seats, jumping on seats, and running up and down the aisles. The parents just sat there and smiled like they thought it was cute. I said something to the parents and children, I didn't physically assault them. I can't help but think you're a troll, basing this after the incident a while back where an adult shoved a child on a plane for kicking his seat. Edit: No, I'm not a troll. And you're the level 1 poster, not me. There was a case not that long ago that made national news about an adult that shoved and shook a 3 year old for shaking his seat.
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You need anger management classes. Yes his kid is a brat, but you are something far worse.
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I can understand your viewpoint, but 3 year olds are like that, especially if they are hyper and don't get enough exercise. You are much bigger than him, you have to show restraint, like everyone else around you did. There will be no mercy for you, just settle out of court with the man and put it behind you.
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The father probably didn't know how to handle his child in that situation. It would cost a TON of money to have all of those extra planes. Kid aren't spoiled brats, they're kids. Kids are always going to act up in public, be loud, and sometimes be a pain in the ass. You should have addressed the father directly. There is never a reason to hit a child, especially when it's not yours.
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Do trolls have to buy two seats?
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If you were to put your hands on my child..... you would be missing your hands. WHO do you think you are? Do you realize this is against the LAW? I hope some 8 foot wrestler someday doesn't like what you are doing, and slaps the snot out of you.
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In the Bible parents are told to discipline their own children. I spank my 3 year old if he doesn't mind me... on the butt. If someone's kids are bothering you take it up with the parent. If you're just mean about it expect the parent to do nothing.. ask nice & they may try harder to get their kid under control. If you shove my kid into a window I'd take you to court too.
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Whether you believe your actions were right or wrong, it is ultimately completely irrelevant. You made a decision and you have to deal with the consequences. It's true that many parents don't know how to manage their kids, but taking the responsibility of disciplining others' children isn't going to get you far. Plus, if you are resorting to physical violence, it shows that you yourself don't have a good grasp of how to teach children to behave.
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Im sorry. I feel your pain and I understand that children can be annoying. But seriously dude, you're a dumbass. You NEVER do that to a child. 1) He's three fucking years old. Do u have a kid? They make a lot of noise. Learn some respect? Hes 3 YEARS OLD! He has no CONCEPT of other people's emotions and feelings except his parents 2) flights dont allow children on first class. So, stop complaining and buy an expensive ticket if ur gunna abuse any child that annoys u. 3)I do agree with u on this one. The father should have shut the kid up. But thats no excuse for hitting him
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You were completely wrong. While the father was wrong in letting his child go on, you have no business disciplining someone else's child. You could have easily talked to a flight attendant.....perhaps they could have talked to the father, given the child something like a drink/cookie to calm him down. You have absolutely no right to put your hands on a child that is not yours. You even state that you think the child might have had mental issues, yet you shoved him anyways? Your disgusting, and hopefully you will get the book thrown at you in court.
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Honestly, if you were to have done something like that to my child, I would have done more than yell at you. The child was not mentally off. Children do things like that. It is in their nature. Why not just start your own country where only single people can live there? Then you won't have to worry about stuff like this. Why don't you worry about your own life and let others deal with their children the way that they feel is right? The child wasn't being hurt by the parent (only by you), so it was none of your business. Either ask to be reseated or get some earplugs and get over it.
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I've raised two children and I'm here to tell you that smacking a child will NOT stop them from screeching. As hard as it is on all our ears, the noise must be tolerated. In time they grow up, and that's all there is to be done about it. I don't know where you got the idea that you deserve peace. You don't. You live here with all the rest of us, and since we have to tolerate your ignorance, you'll just have to tolerate ours. If you're smart you'll enroll in an anger management course ahead of your court date. You talk about parent's lack of control of their children when you failed to control your own temper for one single hour. Look in the mirror.
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you knew well in your heart to not hit the kid, but because your annoyance towards him overpowered your conscious, you felt that it was ok to hit the kid. That means you knew full well what would happen when you shoved him lol which i may have to say was very funny. But because of our sinful nature it covers what's wrong and right and we act on how we feel.
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"A father is in front of me with his bratty 3 year-old boy who keeps screaming playfully. You know the type- the kid that's in a good mood but thinks its funny to make monkey screechy noises." It is wrong to get revenge.
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I had a lot of my own kids- and took in kids and still do daycare and have some young adult "fosters" living here. And I sometimes WISH one could just smack a kid!!! Oh yes, somedays you FEEL like it. Kids can wear you right out. You must have been under some stress??? Or do you lose your temper often??? You were out of line. You should have voiced YOUR opinion loudly to the father and to the stewardess. Children CAN be so so annoying, I agree. There ARE other ways other than smacking. Apparently the parents of that kid do NOT discipline it at home. (why do people think discipline means spanking????) Parents are to teach the child SELF-discipline from an early age and that means teaching the child to obey the parents- that no means no and tantrums do not help,etc. This isn't the place to get into child rearing advice however. I DO see a lack of parents who actually know they should be the parents lately- not their kids' buddy. You were out of line to lay a hand on the kid however. Even if it was an adult who was annoying! You will have your day in court. Who knows what will happen. You need a good lawyer. And if you get angry in general, you need more than that, you need a new you, you need Christ.
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First off, if that were MY child, I would kick your ASS so bad you wouldn't show up for court buddy. Your question is about God and if you are going to hell for what you did. No. you are not going to hell- ask for forgiveness from #1 most importantly - that child's parents, anyone you affected on that plane, then from God, and then forgive yourself. Go to your court date and take your sentence. Children are allowed on planes. You won't get a one word or one sentence answer here. you asked your question in the religious section - because there are some people (namely atheists here) that like to answer questions with just one word or sentence if you talk about God- that's why you're getting these responses. But I would kick your ass, a believer in god or not, I'd do it to protect my child! Man you need to talk to someone so you don't hit a kid again - he WAS THREE YEARS OLD. don't you feel bad about that? I hope so. Also, a plane is form of public transportation. you aren't above any other 'paying' passenger. So NO the parents of the child do not have to abide by YOUR wishes and make their child be quiet!!!
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The discipline of the child was the responsibility of the father. Legally, you committed assault against the child and you should have been arrested when the plane landed. Airlines "allow" children on board because their parents purchase tickets. From where I sit, you need to learn some patience when dealing with other people. As you stated, the flight was an hour. While the father was possibly wrong to "let" the child annoy your highness, you were dead wrong to take matters into your own hands and hit the child. You're lucky the father didn't deck you. You posed a danger to his child and he would probably been legally permitted to kill you.
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Yup. !) GET A LIFE!!! 2) LEARN SOME PATIENCE! 3) NEVER, EVER, EVER touch anyone else's child! 4) never, ever EVER, hit a child. 5) DUH!!!!!! shoving a kid's head into the window of the plane HURT!!!@ I sure HOPE you are a troll!!! WHERE was the flight attendant!?!?!?! WHY were you even allowed OFF THE PLANE without HANDCUFFS AND A POLICE ESCORT? Are you REALLY that dense? HOW do you expect people to react, anyway?
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As much as I can sympathize with your desire to get some rest, you went about it the wrong way. If the father should have known better, then you should have taken it up with him. If that didn't work, you should have spoken to the attendant. However, he was as much a paying customer as you were. If you really want to be guaranteed to have peace and quiet on a flight, you should hire out a private plane (or at least get such a guarantee in writing)... or, you could decide to drive your own car. Or better yet, start your own airline where kids aren't allowed just to show the other airlines how profitable it would be to cater to those who don't want kids on their flights.
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lol Wow. You were way out of line. Firstly, wasn't your kid. Don't ever touch another person's kid. Secondly, you should have just asked the father to handle it. Thirdly, he was 3. Three year olds make odd noises all the time. He was playing. So, next time keep your hands to yourself. Never touch another guy's kid. Ever.
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ok....who hits a child like that ? even when they are annoyed...i mean seriously... What the hell is wrong with your brain? why didn't you decide to change seat earlier.. Gotta admit..it was waaayyy over the line...
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you were most certainly out of line you DO NOT put your hands on someone else's child i hope you understand you hurt the child and the parent could have probably killed you you need to have more respect now yes it would have been to easy for the parent to hit the child in the mouth it could have been to easy for you to tell the parent your child's bothering me or better yet told a flight attendant who could have taken care of the problem i don't know but you sound disturbed i hope you don't have children because they do just that cry an yell all day